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Obama’s Birther Mistake

Okay, so the big news yesterday is that Obama released his long-form birth certificate to shut “The Donald” up. Before I go into why this was a terrible idea on Obama’s part, let’s talk about the facts.

In 2000, the Bush campaign claimed that John McCain was not a naturally born United States citizen and as such is restricted from holding the office of President of the United States under the Constitution. You see, McCain was born on a US Military base overseas. Military bases are considered part of the United States no matter where in the world they are and so McCain was born in the US. The Bush campaign alleged that he was actually born off base and his birth certificate was faked. Guess what, McCain hired those same people who came up with the “McCain faked his birth certificate campaign” to be part of his campaign in 2008.

So right on the surface, we know this is bullshit. We know that this whole thing was imagined as a campaign tactic. Still, shortly after the rise of the current “birther movement” Obama released his official certificate of live birth from the state of Hawaii because he thought people would care. They didn’t. If Obama really wasn’t born in the US, Hilary Clinton would have been the first to jump on that. But the fact is that this whole thing is ridiculously absurd and anyone who continues to claim that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii is retarded.

Now that we got that out of the way, it was politically stupid for Obama to release his long-form birth certificate. For starters, it doesn’t change anything. He had already released his official certificate of live birth and the birther movement didn’t even notice or care. These people are as stated above, retarded! The long-form isn’t going to change that nor is it going to convince them that he was really born in Hawaii. Michelle Bachmann was recently confronted with his official certificate of live birth during an interview and she said that she takes Obama at his word that he was born in the US. But that fact is that is just her way of saying that she is a birther. She doesn’t need to take him at his word she had just been presented with actual evidence.

Next, Obama should want the crazier Republicans to push this issue because it forces all the Republican 2012 candidates to play lip service to it in order to win the Primary. The crazier candidates would have a better chance of winning the Primary, but a far worse chance winning the general election. After the Primary, Obama could then bring out the long form and really destroy the Republican candidate with moderates and independents.

Bringing out the long-form changes nothing except that it forces the Republicans to find some new wacky allegation, that may not be as easy to refute. The devil you know and can defeat at any time is better than the devil you don’t know any day.

In any case, this is a great time for me to pimp out my old Examiner article demanding the birth certificate of Jesus. Check it out and pimp it out.

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  • qwertyuiop

    Since they faked the moon landing, they’d have no trouble faking a birth certificate, like duh!

  • kirk

    Your hypothesis that this ‘doesn’t change anything’ is falsifiable outside the Birther ranks. The vast middle may see that something – anything – has been done about a frivolous untruth. There are two documents in agreement where there was only one before. The noise and confusion on the R-base and the defenseless D-base hope may change. Anderson Cooper and Shep Smith will probably double down on the sane while they point/counter-point teh crazy.

    At the least, Trump lost a line of demarcation. This fake line in the fake sand only existed in his wee, loser, epic-fail-generating brain between him and Obama. The next thing on deck for him is China and he may ass up the conversation but at least this is an actual problem with actual policy issues attached.

    Obama did this for the rest of us only AFTER he started his 2012 campaign. When else could he have done it?

  • http://www.dangeroustalk.net Staks

    After the Republican Primary!

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  • Steve

    Pres. Obama was absolutely right to authorize the release of the long-form birth certificate at the start of his campaign and not halfway through it. If he didn’t critics could, rightly, claim that he was manipulating the issue for political reasons.

  • http://www.dangeroustalk.net Staks

    Yeah and? He is a fucking politician and he didn’t start this thing. He SHOULD use it for political gain!!!!!

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  • Steve

    He’s President. It shows good leadership that he’s trying to throw cold water on the subject now instead of stringing people along in some sort of campaign stunt.
    By stringing people along, I don’t mean that there would be any doubt that he was born in Hawaii, I mean that it would it be incredibly annoying to have to hear a tiny minority of people say “release the long the long-form birth certificate” for another year and then have him release it as a campaign stunt. Delaying the release wouldn’t be to his political gain, it would make him look crass and unpresidential.

  • http://www.dangeroustalk.net Staks

    Steve, Obama didn’t start this ridiculous birther thing. He doesn’t have to publicly release any birth certificate (long or short). As a politician it makes sense to allow these wackos to determine the Republican candidate. The much sought after independents and moderates consider the birther stuff rightfully as nonsense. For a Birther candidate helps the President’s reelection. The only people who would see the timing of his release as relevant are the people who aren’t going to be swayed by it in the first place. Those people are NEVER going to vote for him. So who cares about them. No one is yelling about how John McCain used this birther thing as a political stunt and being unpresidential when he was running. This was politically a stupid move and a stupid move for the nation. It lowers the position of the President to the level of crazy people.

  • http://www.atheistrev.com vjack

    I agree. This was another poor decision by Obama.

  • Joe

    What is the one thing that you would have to be God to know? There isn’t a God. Atheism is foolishness. And intelligent person would say I am self centered and don’t care. Atheism again is the most intellectually bankrupt position of all. :)

    • dangeroustalk

      Wow, in one short paragraph you made multiple statements which demonstrate that you are an idiot. Let me take them one by one so you know why you are an idiot.
      1. This blog post has nothing to do with religion. It is about a political situation that was going on over a year ago. You commented on the wrong blog post.
      2. You are claiming that only God can know that God doesn’t exist. Seriously? I guess only leprechauns know if leprechauns are real. *facepalm*
      3. I’m not self-centered. I have compassion and empathy and care about the well-being of others. You assume because I don’t want to get into a eternal perfect paradise that I am self-centered. I actually think such a belief makes you self-centered. Thank about it.
      4. It is intellectually bankrupt to claim that a lack of belief equates to a lack of knowledge. See my article in the Atheism 101 section: http://www.examiner.com/article/religion-101-what-is-the-difference-between-atheism-and-agnosticism
      Wow, four stupid things in five sentences. You sir have won the idiot award today. Congratulations.