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Democrats Are Bad Negotiators

Yesterday’s blog entry has generated a lot of responses through twitter, facebook, e-mail, etc. My position is that I probably will not vote for President Obama in his re-election. Part of my reasoning for this is that Obama is a bad negotiator. As it turns out Democrats in general are bad negotiators too.

A lot of people have come forward to tell me that they disagree with Obama on a lot of issues, but that they are going to support him anyway. Well shit, I hope none of these people have to negotiate with anyone for anything ever. Right now, I am in a negotiation process with the President and every voter should be too.

If we tell the President that he has our vote no matter what then guess what? He isn’t going to do anything we want him to do. We have given him no incentive to be a better President and to listen to anything we have to say. In short, such a tactic is bad negotiating.

If enough of his former supporters tell him that he is losing our support because he hasn’t paid attention to our issues, then we are giving him an incentive to pay attention to our issues. However, if the President considers that an ideal threat then he may call your bluff. This means that we have to make him believe that we are serious and that we are not bluffing.

With that said, what you do in the voting booth is between you and Debold. But if you want a President who will fight for your issues, you have to stay strong and make it clear that you will not support him if he does not support the issues you care about.

Instead, a lot of Democrats have called their own bluff and basically said what the President has said. If someone has hostages, you should do whatever they want because they might hurt the hostages. I remember when the President said that, and my jaw dropped.

Right now, the Republicans are holding the country hostage and the President is willing to give them whatever they want. As a result, the President is holding your vote hostage and you are willing to do whatever he wants. Whatever happened to the idea that you don’t negotiate with hostage takers? If we open up that door even once, it can never be closed again.

Don’t let the President hold your vote hostage! Tell him that you will not vote for him if he continues to try to appease the Republicans. Be strong!

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  • http://improbablejoe.blogspot.com Improbable Joe

    Yeah, voting for Obama is pretty much the most stupid thing you can do if you’re at all progressive. It has more negative consequences than simply allowing Obama to shift further right to try to get the “independent” morons to vote for him. Since the Republicans are going to call Obama an extreme liberal as he wrecks the country with Republican policies, Obama is also destroying the Democratic and progressive brands without actually attempting any of our policy solutions.

    So go ahead and vote for the destruction of liberalism in America. I’ll skip it and at least not have any blood on my hands.

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  • DeafAtheist

    Perhaps for the 2012 election I should consider voting for an independent candidate as I mentioned in my comment in your previous post.

    I agree with what you’re saying here Staks, and you’re right that’s exactly the way voters should approach upcoming elections and should vote for candidates who will genuinely support the issues that you care about and not just make a bunch of empty promises.

    But unfortunately a liberal voter who votes for an independent candidate is diluting the election by dividing their votes between an independent and Democratic candidate while conservative voters will vote Republican and chances are the Republican candidate will win because liberal votes are divided between the independent and Democratic candidates rather than all for one which makes it harder for 1 or the other to beat the Republican candidate. This is why even tho I often like an independent candidate better than a Democratic one I still vote Democrat just to do my part in keeping Republicans out of office.

    The reason Obama was so successful in his campaign in 2008 was due to reaching out to voters in ways no other candidate had ever done before He truly got people interested and I think he even succeeded in getting people who never (or rarely ever) vote to head to their local polling place and cast a vote for him. If an independent candidate was that relentless in their campaigning they could be much more successful in acquiring votes.

    Take former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura for instance… He ran as an independent and he won because he reached out to a lot of young voters. The reason he won’t go any further in politics is because he refuses to run for any office as a Democrat or Republican. But he serves as an example of what an independent candidate can accomplish with a genuine effort in campaigning. Of course Ventura’s previously established celebrity status as a former pro wrestler helped his campaign as well, but I think with the right effort even a relatively unknown politician could be successful if he or she makes a genuine effort to reach voters while campaigning.

    So I think I’d have to say that my vote is still up in the air dependent on Obama’s performance for the rest of his term and whether or not there is a viable independent candidate… but I would sooner write in Spongebob Squarepants for President than vote for a Republican.

  • http://www.dangeroustalk.net Staks

    I would write in Spongebob before voting for a Republican too. You are absolutely right that if we vote for an independent candidate it might split the vote. So one would think that Obama would want to avoid that. There is a way he can do it and that is to start listening to what the independent candidates are saying and take up their positions. Then, many of the people who would vote for the independent candidate might decide to vote for him instead. But if he thinks we are going to vote for him out of fear of splitting the vote, then he doesn’t have to do any work at all. He doesn’t have to listen to the issues that the independent candidate brings up. If Obama wants to keep he White House for 4 more years, he better start paying attention to what progressive voters expect from him.