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What If All the Atheists Left Europe?

I keep hearing this thing where atheists pose the question, “what if all the atheists left America,” and then they point out particular atheists who would leave and how that would make the country worse. I guess that might convince someone that atheists aren’t evil baby eaters, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

I have a better question in mind. What if all the atheists left Europe… and came to the United States? Well, we could run atheists or public office and win. Then we could force religious believers to keep their ridiculous beliefs out of politics all together.

Challenges to the Separation of Church and State would be so easily defeated that Republicans wouldn’t even bother to bring them up. Science education would quickly improve. Medical research on stem cells could be funded adequately and diseases would become eradicated.

Schools would have no problem offering a comprehensive sex education class to teens who need to know that information. This would lower the teen pregnancy rate and lower the poverty rate. President Obama would pass a real Health Care bill. Foreign policy would be totally different too.

The point here is that America is the last battle ground. It is the last real holdout for religion and it is a powerful holdout. If atheists from all over the world came here and voted for rational people instead of the religious wackos like Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, and the rest not only would America change for the better, but the whole world would change.

I understand the appeal of other non-religious wacko nations. My wife and I even talked about moving to Canada or the Netherlands to get away from the wackos in America so that we can live more rational lives. But the fact is that would just make the world worse. Like it or not, America has the bombs (as Dennis Leary puts it). Do you really think a President Palin wouldn’t try to invade atheist nations if she the rest of the country was as religious as she is?

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  • Alex Hardman

    Me and mine have considered an exit strategy as well. If sanity dies in 2012 I’m not sure how much crap I’m gonna be able to stick around for.

  • http://wazaghun.blogspot.com wazaghun

    “The point here is that America is the last battle ground. It is the last real holdout for religion and it is a powerful holdout.”

    America is perhaps the single point on earth were religiosity and overall military power mix at such a high degree. But conservatives and religious wingnuts in the US have a tradition of wanting a strong force that they won’t send anywhere while paradoxically liberals have a tendency to want a weak army that intervenes everywhere ;-)

    But I think you are wrong. America is NOT the last battle ground. The real battleground is not the USA. Its the countless countries in northern Africa, the Middle East and parts of Asia. It’s the Pakistans, Saudi Arabias and Irans of the world that eventually will constitute the battleground. And these countries do not actually need big military might. the only thing they need is a small dirty bomb.

    As for your post…. I myself asked myself (and still occasionally do) if I should move over to the US. But the question is why should I? What does it have to offer to the atheist apart of a hard time in the middle of mostly religious people, a big chance never to get elected or have a good reputation because of a lack of belief, a bad social security system and a democratic system that in my view is flawed already due to the fixed constitution.

    I actually rather think that it might be better to leave the US. For two reasons:
    a) It would be better for you and your family
    b) It might indeed have such a negative effect on the US that the remnants of society there perhaps would start to think about reality lest the country will become a third world nation.

    On the other hand … I understand that one wants the best for one’s country. And that includes sometimes staying and “fighting” for it.

  • http://www.dangeroustalk.net Staks

    It isn’t just fighting for America, if the religious right get absolute control and the people become almost totally religious wacko, they will use the military might against the rest of the world… especially the godless world. Bush had no problem going into Iraq for Oil, an even more religious President with an even more religious base would have no problem invading godless nations. We need rational people to come here and help fight the political battle.

  • http://wazaghun.blogspot.com wazaghun

    I understand your point. My question would be … if America was solely made up of religious (creationist) wingnuts … how long do you think they would still even know how to build a nuke?

    We have people there building arks and creation museums. Those are the people that would remain if the rational left. You think they would actually still be able to even operate power plants?

    Give them 30 years and they would be at the level of the taliban (technologically as well).

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  • david

    Where are corporations and the wealthy the strongest? America. That is why religious zeal is so rampant here, because it is in corporations best interest to keep the masses predominantly ignorant with the ability to follow and worship at the behest of the corporate dominated clergy. Our fight is with the aristocracy not the religious folks because if religion lost it’s corporate influence the masses would follow to a more benevolent social position.

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