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Talking to a Wall

My father used to tell me this old Jewish joke about a Jew praying at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem. There was this Jew who came to the Wailing Wall every day for ten years to pray. One day, someone asked him if any of his prayers were every answered. He responded by saying, “No, it’s like talking to a wall.”

It was a really lame joke, but it reminds me of two videos that I want to share today. The first is a classic video about prayer by GodIsImaginary.

The other video that I want to share is the new video by NonStampCollector.

One of the things I noticed in this video and can especially relate too is that no matter how many times I address an issue that a fundamentalist Christian brings up they continue to repeat the same issue over and over again. Sometimes it really does feel like I am talking to a wall.

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  • disqus_O7Ws2bMRWE

    You’re missing the point. In a way you remind me of the creationists because what you are doing is superimposing an extremely limited view on history. The creationist do it by a literalist, and fundamentally very modern, reading of the Bible you do it by missing the fact that, as Reza points out many times, our concept of history is only a couple of hundred years old. Prior to that people used other means to try and describe the world they were living in. This isn’t about agreeing with that view it is about understanding it, because it both was and is extremely influential. I am an atheist by the way. And if atheism is a desire for knowledge we need to get the fundamentals about pre-1700′s worldviews and history writing right. Or else we are pretty much doing the exact same mistake as the religious fundamentalists and losing any sense of historical context. Sacred History is about ideals, values and community and if you try to airbrush that out, ironically, you’re not being very scientific. Sadly this is pretty much a common problem in the neo-atheist community. A complete lack of scientific approach to history and the history of ideas.

    • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

      Reza is LYING! As mentioned the corrections & additions section, the concept of history as a written record is not modern. It was not invented in 1700s; it was invented 2500 years ago! There is no way Reza doesn’t know this. So yeah, if you are going to paint me as a fundamentalist because I think history means history, then I guess you got me. No one is arguing that there isn’t value in fictional stories and that telling fictional stories that convey some sort of moral or social meaning didn’t and doesn’t exist. I love Star Wars, but Star Wars is NOT history! To turn around and claim that it is a “Sacred History” and that Luke Skywalker really existed as a Truth, is simply not being honest.

      • disqus_O7Ws2bMRWE

        You’re still missing the point, man.

        • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

          Okay, I’ll bite. What is “the point” exactly? Because I thought the point was that Reza LIED when he said that the modern conception of history was only 300 years old when he damn well knew (or ought to have known) that it is 2500 years old and that he LIED when he said that people back then wouldn’t have any understanding of history as we understand it.

          Again, no one is arguing that people don’t derive meaning and understanding from fictional stories. That doesn’t make those stories true. It just means that we take meaning and understanding from fictional stories. But maybe that isn’t “the point.” So please enlighten me.

          • disqus_O7Ws2bMRWE

            Herodotus aside I think his point about how the people who wrote the bible and who it was written for pretty much stands.

            • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

              Really? based on what? You’re claiming that Reza knows the intentions of the Gospel writers and yet I don’t think he even knows who the gospel writers were. In fact, no one does. So I think he is merely asserting his opinion and stating it as a fact. Don’t get me wrong, I am of the opinion that he is probably correct in that the gospels were meant as fiction from the start, but that is my opinion and not a fact.

              But then, Reza contradicts his own opinion by claiming that Jesus (the principle character in the stories) must have been real. Again, that is merely his opinion and he is stating it as an absolute fact. Cenk questioned him on this and his evidence was extremely thin.

              BTW, what do you mean Herodotus aside? That is the whole point!!! Reza LIED!!!! He knows or at least should know that history as we understand it today was the same as it was in Gospel times and yet he purposefully told people that it wasn’t. Reza is full of shit and was absolutely called out on it. He even admits it and then goes back to lying. That’s just embarrassing.

      • disqus_O7Ws2bMRWE

        Also Jedi is a registered Faith. But that’s neither here nor there I suppose.

        • http://skepticink.com/dangeroustalk Dangerous Talk

          Duh, I’m the Master of the Temple of the Balancing Force. But that is neither here nor there I suppose… except that you have no idea what you are talking about, of course. No Jedi believes that Luke Skywalker really existed as Truth.