{"id":2946,"date":"2012-05-24T08:52:04","date_gmt":"2012-05-24T13:52:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dangeroustalk.net\/?p=2946"},"modified":"2012-05-24T08:52:04","modified_gmt":"2012-05-24T13:52:04","slug":"the-hate-argument","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.dangeroustalk.net\/?p=2946","title":{"rendered":"The Hate Argument"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the ways religious believers try to sidestep criticism of their ridiculous beliefs is to claim that anyone who has any criticism must \u201chate God.\u201d The conversation usually goes down like this, \u201cYou must hate God and therefore your argument is invalid.\u201d There is actually a logical fallacy for that.<\/p>\n<p>When religious believers claim that atheists \u201cmust hate God\u201d they are actually using a derivative of the ad hominem fallacy. It is an attempt to ignore the actual criticism and passive\/aggressively name call.<\/p>\n<p>There are a few ways to deal with this type of thing. The first is to deny that you hate something that you don\u2019t even believer exists. But this gets us nowhere because religious believers often think that atheists secretly do believe in their deity and that we are just pretending not to so that we can live our sinful lives tricking people into giving us their hard earned money so that we can use it to build huge tax exempt buildings to ourselves and so that we can more easily rape kids\u2026 oh wait\u2026 never mind. Besides, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/article\/atheism-101-are-atheists-angry-with-god\" target=\"_blank\">study is in and atheists actually do hate God<\/a>\u2026 well sort of.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I like to follow Louis C.K.\u2019s lead. Because we all know that comedians are awesome. In an early Comedy Central Presents, Louis C.K. talked about being stuck in traffic and having the guy behind him screaming at him to move forward despite the cars in front of him. It was a great routine. The guy got out of his car and started to bang on C.K.\u2019s window. C.K. knew he had to argue with him, but he didn\u2019t have to have his argument. So he rolled down the window and demanded that the guy give him back his grandmother\u2019s sweater.<\/p>\n<p>So when a religious believer tells me that I must hate God, I tell them that they must hate Voldemort. Why would anyone rebel against \u201che who must not be named?\u201d Then I get into the argument that being all-powerful doesn\u2019t make one just (even when those all-powerful beings are completely imaginary).<\/p>\n<h6 class=\"zemanta-related-title\" style=\"font-size: 1em;\">Related articles<\/h6>\n<ul class=\"zemanta-article-ul\">\n<li class=\"zemanta-article-ul-li\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/atheism-in-national\/scholarship-fund-to-atheist-generates-religious-hate\" target=\"_blank\">Scholarship fund to atheist generates religious hate<\/a> (examiner.com)<\/li>\n<li class=\"zemanta-article-ul-li\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dangeroustalk.net\/?p=2858\" target=\"_blank\">Christian Abuse on Facebook<\/a> (dangeroustalk.net)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"zemanta-pixie\" style=\"margin-top: 10px; height: 15px;\"><a class=\"zemanta-pixie-a\" title=\"Enhanced by Zemanta\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zemanta.com\/?px\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"zemanta-pixie-img\" style=\"float: right;\" src=\"http:\/\/img.zemanta.com\/zemified_e.png?x-id=f17cd7de-cad1-431f-b1a3-c9eb95852bd5\" alt=\"Enhanced by Zemanta\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"linkwithin_hook\" id=\"http:\/\/www.dangeroustalk.net\/?p=2946\"><\/div><script>\n<!-- \/\/LinkWithinCodeStart\nvar linkwithin_site_id = 317364;\nvar linkwithin_div_class = \"linkwithin_hook\";\n\/\/LinkWithinCodeEnd -->\n<\/script>\n<script src=\"http:\/\/www.linkwithin.com\/widget.js\"><\/script>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.linkwithin.com\/\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.linkwithin.com\/pixel.png\" alt=\"Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger...\" style=\"border: 0\" \/><\/a><!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the ways religious believers try to sidestep criticism of their ridiculous beliefs is to claim that anyone who has any criticism must \u201chate God.\u201d The conversation usually goes down like this, \u201cYou must hate God and therefore your argument is invalid.\u201d There is actually a logical fallacy for that. 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