{"id":2351,"date":"2011-07-06T08:57:53","date_gmt":"2011-07-06T13:57:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dangeroustalk.net\/?p=2351"},"modified":"2011-07-06T08:57:53","modified_gmt":"2011-07-06T13:57:53","slug":"dear-christian-if-you-love-me-don%e2%80%99t-threaten-me","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.dangeroustalk.net\/?p=2351","title":{"rendered":"Dear Christian: If You Love Me, Don\u2019t Threaten Me!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I would say that the single most common message I get from Christians is usually in two parts. The first part is an expression of love and the second part is a threat of eternal torture.<\/p>\n<p>This is of course not the first time I have written about this however, the title of my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/atheism-in-philadelphia\/atheism-101-is-hell-a-threat\" target=\"_blank\">Atheism 101 article<\/a> on this subject seems to give people the wrong impression. I think I said it best is a sort one line response to a comment a Christian left on one of my articles recently:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI wouldn&#8217;t worship a deity under the threat of eternal torture even if I believed such a deity existed&#8230; and I don&#8217;t.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That\u2019s even less than 140 characters, but it doesn\u2019t really address the passive aggressive tone of the Christian\u2019s message. It also doesn\u2019t really address the false expression of love. I say that the expression of love is false because I think that anyone who truly loved me would stand up to the deity who threatened to torture me for all eternity simply for not believing in his existence because he failed to present adequate evidence to convince me that he actually exists.<\/p>\n<p>The way I see it (and I expressed this in a <a href=\"http:\/\/youtu.be\/7zJRq-nPuP8\" target=\"_blank\">video<\/a>) is that God would know what would persuade me of his existence and he would be able to present that persuasive evidence. So if God loves me, then he would present that evidence and I would be persuaded by it. Therefore, either God desired to torture me for all eternity, doesn\u2019t know how to convince me, is unable to convince me, or he just flat out doesn\u2019t exist.<\/p>\n<p>No matter how you slice it, it doesn\u2019t look good for the Christian. Besides, what kind of sadistic deity would even put \u201ctorture non-believers for all eternity\u201d on the menu? That is fucking ridiculous and that is why I think that anyone who really loves me would call this shit out.<\/p>\n<p>If you are a Christian and you want to offer a prayer to your God on my behalf, pray that he stop with this eternal Hell thing. Because even if God did prove persuasively that he existed, I still wouldn\u2019t worship any deity that thought it was okay to torture anyone for all eternity without the possibility for parole. That\u2019s not justice that is sick and twisted hate. So don\u2019t tell me you love me because your words don\u2019t match your beliefs and actions.<\/p>\n<p>Dear Christians, I love you and I want you to stop believing this twisted shit and start living your life free from religious bullshit. You will be happier and you will make others happier too.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks.<br \/>\n<!-- AddThis Button BEGIN --><\/p>\n<div class=\"addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style \"><a class=\"addthis_button_facebook_like\"><\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"addthis_button_tweet\"><\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"addthis_counter addthis_pill_style\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p><script src=\"http:\/\/s7.addthis.com\/js\/250\/addthis_widget.js#pubid=xa-4dc93595546a5520\" type=\"text\/javascript\"><\/script><br \/>\n<!-- AddThis Button END --><\/p>\n<h6 class=\"zemanta-related-title\" style=\"font-size: 1em;\">Related articles<\/h6>\n<ul class=\"zemanta-article-ul\">\n<li class=\"zemanta-article-ul-li\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dangeroustalk.net\/?p=2310\">Religious Forgiveness vs. Secular Forgiveness<\/a> (dangeroustalk.net)<\/li>\n<li class=\"zemanta-article-ul-li\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dangeroustalk.net\/?p=2261\">Shouldn&#8217;t My Hell Be Your Hell?<\/a> (dangeroustalk.net)<\/li>\n<li class=\"zemanta-article-ul-li\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.atheistrev.com\/2011\/05\/beware-of-christian-hell.html\">Beware of Christian Hell<\/a> (atheistrev.com)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"zemanta-pixie\" style=\"margin-top: 10px; height: 15px;\"><a class=\"zemanta-pixie-a\" title=\"Enhanced by Zemanta\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zemanta.com\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"zemanta-pixie-img\" style=\"border: medium none; float: right;\" src=\"http:\/\/img.zemanta.com\/zemified_e.png?x-id=9c7b4a71-4b2d-436c-9f62-c26fceb52db4\" alt=\"Enhanced by Zemanta\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"linkwithin_hook\" id=\"http:\/\/www.dangeroustalk.net\/?p=2351\"><\/div><script>\n<!-- \/\/LinkWithinCodeStart\nvar linkwithin_site_id = 317364;\nvar linkwithin_div_class = \"linkwithin_hook\";\n\/\/LinkWithinCodeEnd -->\n<\/script>\n<script src=\"http:\/\/www.linkwithin.com\/widget.js\"><\/script>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.linkwithin.com\/\"><img src=\"http:\/\/www.linkwithin.com\/pixel.png\" alt=\"Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger...\" style=\"border: 0\" \/><\/a><!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I would say that the single most common message I get from Christians is usually in two parts. 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